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  1. #1
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    Default IEC61850 to Communicate

    hi all,

    thanks for your kindly cooperation.

    zenon 7.10 supervisor with IEC 61850 driver.

    Regarding a driver of IEC850, there are two type to communiate with Elec device.
    polling and report type .

    when the read a data via polling type , it has a interval time over 5more sec.
    and it may not easy to catch a sag data .
    so, i want to use a IEC61850 with Report type.

    would you tell me how to set a IEC61850 driver with report.

    e.g: how to set a scan time and read a data i want etc....

    because i do not know the IEC61850 driver , i could not explain all about it . sorry.
    so is it possible to send me a sample project if you have .

    if you want more information , tell me

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    Default Re: IEC61850 to Communicate

    Hi Gyu,

    A good place to start is the driver documentation!

    After you have installed the editor for zenon 7.10, the latest version of the driver documentation is also automatically installed. Simply open the help from the editor and select the chapter for the driver, or alternatively, open the driver configuration and press the "help" button

    Regards,
    Mark

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    Default Re: IEC61850 to Communicate

    hi ,

    i aleady saw a help . but i can not set the driver .
    that is the reason why i ask it .
    the help just explain a the functionality. not how to set in detail.
    so i can not understand and set it.

    could you give me a sample project .

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    Default Re: IEC61850 to Communicate

    Hi Gyu,

    I don't think a sample project without any further information will help you very much.
    The sample would not work with your device,

    I would suggest contacting your local COPA-DATA support to get some training on energy specifc protocols and IEC61850 in specific.

    They may also be able to provide you with a sample where the zenon IEC61850 client driver is used to connect to a IEC61850 server that is running locally inside the zenon logic, in the course of this training.

    Best regards,
    Mark

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    Default Re: IEC61850 to Communicate

    You may also find some helpful information in this thread.

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    Default Re: IEC61850 to Communicate

    hi , Mark

    it is not helpful to see the manual.

    i have to set it after 2 days. and pre-test it with TOSHIBA IEC61850.

    i do not have enough time .

    the manual is just explain and description . not a real information.

    but , sample project is helpful to me because i may understand that how to go and direction.

    is it difficult to create a sample project ??

    if it is not difficult , send me it . i need any information indeed.

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    Default Re: IEC61850 to Communicate

    Hi Gyu,

    I hope you were successfull communicating to the Toshiba IEDs. It is not difficult to create a sample project, it just takes some time

    You could ask your local COPA-DATA support to help you with a small sample project, or perhaps someone else in the forum does have some time to create this for you

    Best regards,
    Mark

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    Default Re: IEC61850 to Communicate

    hi,

    Regarding the IEC61850 ,

    there are two server (P & S server) in the project.

    1. On the help, RCB assignment/dynamic datasets ,
    "have to create two RCB if it have two server"

    what does it mean ?

    2. TOSHBA GRE140 has two RCB.
    Must i change a Max.auto used URCBs to two ??

    3. In case that URCBs is used , how do i set the IEC61850 driver ??
    just active a Max.auto used URCBs, is it all ??

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    Default Re: IEC61850 to Communicate

    Quote Originally Posted by gyu View Post

    Regarding the IEC61850 ,

    there are two server (P & S server) in the project.

    1. On the help, RCB assignment/dynamic datasets ,
    "have to create two RCB if it have two server"

    what does it mean ?
    brcbs (buffered reports) are client specific. In case of a connection loss of this client to the server and a reconnect of this client to the server, the server may send buffered values to the client which it did not receive yet. In case of redundant zenon servers, both the server and the standby server enables a specific buffered report. Of course there must be two buffered reports configured in the IED accordingly, one for the server and one for the standby server.

    Please see the driver help on buffered reporting for more information.


    Quote Originally Posted by gyu View Post
    2. TOSHBA GRE140 has two RCB.
    Must i change a Max.auto used URCBs to two ??
    Firstly that depends on the fact if you have explicitly specified any reports in the driver configuration already. When you don't explicitly specify any reports, the driver will automatically attempt to activate up to the max. auto used URCBs, depending on which variables you are using in your zenon projec, and which objects are included in the data sets that are configured for the URCBs.

    Please see the driver help on unbuffered reporting for more information.


    Quote Originally Posted by gyu View Post
    3. In case that URCBs is used , how do i set the IEC61850 driver ??
    just active a Max.auto used URCBs, is it all ??
    Yes, that is one possibility. See the answer above, the driver will automatically attempt to activate the number of reports in the max. auto URCBs. When you have multiple 850 Clients connecting to the IED and you need control over which URCBs are activated by the 850 client on the zenon server / standby server, you need to specify the reports explicitly.

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    Default Re: IEC61850 to Communicate

    according IEC61850 Standard one and the same URCB on Server can be used by many Clients, only BRCBs not. So in case the Server support URCBs correctly (i do not know if this TOSHIBA does it) you can just set Max. auto used URCBs to the number of URCBs on Server. Then the Client - zenon iec850 driver - will dynamically decide to use the URCB if only there are variables in the zenon project included in it.

    So when TOSHIBA correctly supports URCBs and delivers data you need in Unbuffered Reports (and not in BRCBs) then to set Max. auto used URCBs is the only thing you have to configure. The rest the driver does automatically.

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