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  1. #1
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    Ausrufezeichen how to combine three different projects

    I have 3 projects back up. I like to combine it in one project and during runtime I will switch to any project what I need. is it possible with zenon 6.51.

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    Default Re: how to combine three different projects

    zenon supports multi-hierarchical project configuration. You can have an integration project, and sub-projects with multiple layers.

    To create an integration project, simply create a new project, restore the 3 backups, and use drag&drop to make the 3 projects from the backups to sub-projects of the newly created project.

    The new project can have a frame, that is shown always on top (frame setting), in an area that is not used in the sub-projects. Make sure to give this frame a distinctive name. Then for this frame, create a new screen, and create three screen switch functions to the three start screens of your sub-projects.

    This is just the simplest form of an integration project. Much more is possible, like viewing alarms from all three projects, project spanning archiving in the integration project, etc. etc.

    You can find an example of an integration project and sub-projects, by looking at the standard demos on the 6.51 DVD.

    As long as the integration project is the start project, all three sub-projects are automatically started. Do note however, that your license must accommodate for the combined number of tags for all projects.

  3. #3

    Default Re: how to combine three different projects

    Hi Mark,

    I have 5 projects on different solar plants i want to monitor all 5 projects/primary servers via VPN (internet) to the office using one server PC (Client to servers). I will be using integration project for this application. what license do I need to buy and install? (server runtime license unlimited/ client runtime license unlimited as terminal server).

    Looking forward to hear from you.

    Thanks
    Lingelethu. 

  4. #4

    Default Re: how to combine three different projects

    Hi Lingelethu,

    Thanks for your post and welcome to the forum

    From your description and your question regarding terminal server, I'm not sure if you just want to have a single monitoring location (integration project) at your central location or if you also wanted to have multiple clients for the central monitoring.

    A project hierarchy could look like this:



    On the SITEPV1 and SITEPV2 computers (local at the PV sites), only the PV1 and PV2 project respectively would be started, configured as a network project. The integration project is not required to run here. Depending on the number of tags in your project(s), a license for the number of tags for the corresponding project would suffice.

    On the CENTRAL_SRV_INTEGRATION computer (central location), the integration project would be the start project. Automatically, the runtime will also start the SITEPV1 and SITEPV2 project as a client. In regard to the license, the number of tags required is cumulative for all projects. So depending on the project tag count, an unlimited license may be needed here.

    The integration project could in its turn also again be a network project and be configured as a runtime server. This would allow starting the runtime on multiple computers on the central location with the integration project as the start project. In this case these computers would be runtime client of the integration project and of the SITEPV projects.

    A terminal server is not required but can be useful for the last configuration where you have multiple clients in the central location. Each client instance that is started concurrently however, will need its own license with the cumulative tag count.

    When the integration project is configured as a network project, it needs to run on an own system, this cannot be the same system as the terminal server for the clients.

    Best regards,
    Mark
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    Rotes Gesicht Re: how to combine three different projects

    Thank you very much Mark. this look very easy and simple to configure.

    That's what I love about Zenon. 

    Quote Originally Posted by markclemens View Post
    Hi Lingelethu,

    Thanks for your post and welcome to the forum

    From your description and your question regarding terminal server, I'm not sure if you just want to have a single monitoring location (integration project) at your central location or if you also wanted to have multiple clients for the central monitoring.

    A project hierarchy could look like this:



    On the SITEPV1 and SITEPV2 computers (local at the PV sites), only the PV1 and PV2 project respectively would be started, configured as a network project. The integration project is not required to run here. Depending on the number of tags in your project(s), a license for the number of tags for the corresponding project would suffice.

    On the CENTRAL_SRV_INTEGRATION computer (central location), the integration project would be the start project. Automatically, the runtime will also start the SITEPV1 and SITEPV2 project as a client. In regard to the license, the number of tags required is cumulative for all projects. So depending on the project tag count, an unlimited license may be needed here.

    The integration project could in its turn also again be a network project and be configured as a runtime server. This would allow starting the runtime on multiple computers on the central location with the integration project as the start project. In this case these computers would be runtime client of the integration project and of the SITEPV projects.

    A terminal server is not required but can be useful for the last configuration where you have multiple clients in the central location. Each client instance that is started concurrently however, will need its own license with the cumulative tag count.

    When the integration project is configured as a network project, it needs to run on an own system, this cannot be the same system as the terminal server for the clients.

    Best regards,
    Mark


  6. #6

    Default Re: how to combine three different projects

    Hi Mark,

    Is it possible to buy a client license for central location and runtime license for each PV site?

    Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by markclemens View Post
    Hi Lingelethu,

    Thanks for your post and welcome to the forum

    From your description and your question regarding terminal server, I'm not sure if you just want to have a single monitoring location (integration project) at your central location or if you also wanted to have multiple clients for the central monitoring.

    A project hierarchy could look like this:



    On the SITEPV1 and SITEPV2 computers (local at the PV sites), only the PV1 and PV2 project respectively would be started, configured as a network project. The integration project is not required to run here. Depending on the number of tags in your project(s), a license for the number of tags for the corresponding project would suffice.

    On the CENTRAL_SRV_INTEGRATION computer (central location), the integration project would be the start project. Automatically, the runtime will also start the SITEPV1 and SITEPV2 project as a client. In regard to the license, the number of tags required is cumulative for all projects. So depending on the project tag count, an unlimited license may be needed here.

    The integration project could in its turn also again be a network project and be configured as a runtime server. This would allow starting the runtime on multiple computers on the central location with the integration project as the start project. In this case these computers would be runtime client of the integration project and of the SITEPV projects.

    A terminal server is not required but can be useful for the last configuration where you have multiple clients in the central location. Each client instance that is started concurrently however, will need its own license with the cumulative tag count.

    When the integration project is configured as a network project, it needs to run on an own system, this cannot be the same system as the terminal server for the clients.

    Best regards,
    Mark


  7. #7

    Default Re: how to combine three different projects

    Hi Lingelethu,

    Yes, this is possible. These licenses would typically also have different contents. E.g. the client for the integration project may need more tags, but would not need drivers. Best to get in contact with your local COPA-DATA sales representative

    Best regards,
    Mark

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    Default Re: how to combine three different projects

    It's really tough to do so

  9. #9

    Default Re: how to combine three different projects

    Hi dragontattoo,

    Could you please elaborate, what you mean by that?

    Best regards,
    Mark

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